Terry, Great post.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
worse than being stupid is thinking you are smart while you are stupid.. i should know.. for many years i was a special category of "stupid"; i was jehovah's witness stupid.. .
what does that entail?
listen and i'll tell you.. ___________________________________________________________.
Terry, Great post.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
the bible is written in classical hebrew (there are many other types and older types).
yhwh is a classical hebrew sentence that roughly means 'he wills it, and it happens'.
the hebrew language has such mechanisms for saying things in a shortened form, much like today cpr, rsvp, vip etc..... adonai is also classical hebrew, but its a word.... it means 'lord' and 'master'.. .
Very well done! I also, when I received my KIT read the forward and read that the WTBT$ chose to use Jehovah, because it was popular.
I would expect nothing less from such an anti-christ known as WTBT$.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
it would be nice to start a thread with those people to reason things over in the bible.
no name calling, no putting others down, etc.
it would be nice to show this to my husband without him seeing things like, "if you were a real jw, you would not be on here to begin with.
cognac.
Sorry your husband feels the way he does. This board is not for the squeamish of heart. I for one, am disliking this board more and more. I have actually had more intelligent conversations with small local church groups than with this board. This is not the place for people who wish to still believe in God. They fail to see the bigger picture, who is actually behind all the religious lies. Because they have been lied to by WT they blame God. I for one have taken this opportunity to redefine myself and my relationship with God and his Son. ( It is now on my terms) I was the stupid one for not doing my own research, not double checking the source material, believing what I was told, for living in fear of WT. Although I did read my bible many times over I was still influenced by WT.
I wont start any topics, and am very selective on which ones I post to. I feel this site has changed, and no matter how much Simon says he will watch over this site, one only has to go to the topic Crazyguy started about Evolution. Name calling and such. Without stoping to think about what crazyguy is saying the criticism starts. I rest my case.
If you wish, you may PM me.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
It only counts one time per computer. So if you show it to a friend on your computer it is not counted. Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
Hey dude! very interesting observation and conclusion. ANTI CHRIST. For sure the JWs have put more emphesis on Jehovah.
affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
did you get baptized without being dedicated?.
why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.
why were you serving jehovah at all?
A watcher: The point? my god man, every one who posted, has destroyed their VOW to Jehovah. So the VOW is null and void!!!!! So what is your point? No one has any guilt about a supposed VOW to Jehovah. [See article below from www.jwfacts.com ]
Research cross vs stake. You will find the intent to decieve!!!!! If it is not that clear to you I will spell it out for you. The WTBT$ to establish itself different than all other religions decided to cherry pick from the Imperial bible dictionary to lie about the cross. Then further research Roman executions in Jesus day. The cross was used extensively. I am not going to badger back and forth with you, you need to do research before posting any topics that has to do with the JW religion, especially on this site.
I think OUTLAW has you pegged correctly!!!
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
An indication that there is little support for a stake is the small number of collaborative sources the Watchtower refers to. More telling are the sources the Watchtower uses. The Imperial Bible-Dictionary is partially quoted to show that stauros means a stake. By partial quoting, it hides critical information that stauros was being used to refer to a cross in the first century.
"The Greek word rendered "cross" in many modern Bible versions ("torture stake" in NW) is stau·ros´. In classical Greek, this word meant merely an upright stake, or pale. Later it also came to be used for an execution stake having a crosspiece. The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: "The Greek word for cross, [stau·ros´], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. . . . Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole."-Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376." Reasoning from the Scriptures p.89
What exactly has this quote hidden by use of ellipses (...)? The full quote is:
"The Greek word for cross, (stauros), properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling (fencing in) a piece of ground. But a modification was introduced as the dominion and usages of Rome extended themselves through Greek-speaking countries.Even amongst the Romans, the crux (from which the word cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole, and always remained the more prominent part. But from the time that it began to be used as an instrument of punishment, a traverse piece of wood was commonly added: not however always then.… There can be no doubt, however, that the later sort was the more common, and that about the period of the Gospel Age, crucifixion was usually accomplished by suspending the criminal on a cross piece of wood.
… But the commonest form, it is understood, was that in which the upright piece of wood was crossed by another near the top, but not precisely at it, the upright pole running above the other, thus "a cross" and so making four, not merely two right angles. It was on a cross of this form, according to the general voice of tradition, that our Lord suffered.
... It may be added that crucifixion was abolished around the time of Constantine, in consequence of the sacred associations which the cross had now gathered around it."
The Imperial Dictionary shows quite the opposite of what the Watchtower attempts to prove. Rather than supporting that crucifixion did not come until after Jesus death and that Constantine who introduced this pagan symbol, it specifically states that crosses were the prominent form of execution in Jesus day, and it was Constantine that put an end to them.
did you get baptized without being dedicated?.
why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.
why were you serving jehovah at all?
A watcher!! Did you get the point????
Affectionately: Brother of the hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
P.S. I was not the one who LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
been oooh, 4 months now, nothing, nada, zip, like i never even existed.. no one knows i am awakened, etc... so as far as they concerned i'm still in wt land.. starting missing meetings as i was ill with a virus, knocked me out physically.
the rest is history, as they say.. .
so much for the love that is preached.
Lost, my dear sister, you may be heading for the grave, I,m going to heaven. LOL!!!!
So true, live life now. It is great to be free from the WTBT$.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
i have served 20 years as an elder, 5 years as an ms. was on the district committee in 2010, held various positions on the district , circuit, and rbc level.
probably been on more than 100 judicial committees and even an appeals committee.
was the coordinator in our congregation and deleted because adult child was df ( i kicked him out at the time of his wrongdoing, but that wasn't enough for thr brothers).
Welcome JJ. I hope you can make a clean get away! Feel freel to Pm any time.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
we love bill and his videos slamming wtbt$!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slm2ej6zodq.
We love Bill and his videos slamming WTBT$!